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Plato called my trade a knack. Why did philosophy decide taste and smell don’t count?

I have run kitchens for fifteen years and I've started reading the philosophers on food because I'm tired of being told it's ‘just subjective’ by people who have never had to fix a split sauce on a Friday night.

What I found surprised me. In the Gorgias, Socrates sorts cookery with flattery: medicine is a real art that knows what is good for the body, cookery is a knack that only knows what pleases it. Later writers mostly agreed. The ‘higher’ senses, sight and hearing, could support beauty. Taste and smell were too bodily, too close, too private. Kant's example of the agreeable is someone liking a particular wine, which he contrasts with judging something beautiful.

Carolyn Korsmeyer's Making Sense of Taste goes through the reasons one by one. Taste needs contact, not distance; but why should distance be required for attention? Food can't represent; but a dish can refer to a season, a region, a grandmother's version of itself. Taste leaves no lasting object; neither does a performance of a song. And expertise is plainly real. My sous-chef can taste a stock and tell me what's missing. A new cook cannot. That is the profile of skill, not mood.

So here's what I'd like to talk about. Was the exclusion of taste ever a good argument, or was it a hierarchy of the body dressed up as one? And are there traditions that never made the exclusion in the first place?

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  1. Layla Haddad

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    Classical Arabic medicine is a good counterexample. Ibn Buṭlān, an eleventh-century Christian physician of Baghdad, wrote the Taqwīm al-ṣiḥḥa, laid out in tables: each food, drink, even sleep and the emotions, with its nature, its benefits and harms, and how to correct the harm. Food there is not lower or higher, it's part of a regimen for living well. It was translated into Latin as the Tacuinum sanitatis and the illustrated Italian copies are gorgeous, full of people picking fruit and pressing oil. Taste is treated as knowledge, just not aesthetic knowledge.

    1. Joel D'Souza

      Contributor

      Layla, I had no idea. A table of what each food does and how to correct it is basically a kitchen's mental model of a menu.

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  2. Henrike Vogel

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    In fairness to Kant: he doesn't say taste in the mouth is worthless. He distinguishes the agreeable, where it's fine for each person to have their own liking, from the beautiful, where we speak as if everyone ought to agree. His example is a person who says a wine is agreeable to him, and he thinks that's all such a person can mean. The question Joel's sous-chef raises is whether there are judgements about food that do claim agreement. I suspect there are.

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  3. Ratna Wulandari

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    In batik we say the hand knows before the head. I think the deeper prejudice is not about taste but about any knowledge that lives in the body. Plato's cook, the potter, the dyer, the cook again. Korsmeyer is fighting for one sense, but the whole family of bodily skill was demoted at the same time.

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  4. Bec Doyle

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    One reason in the old list does hold up a bit: taste and smell fatigue fast. By the fortieth wine a judge's palate is not the instrument it was at the first. Eyes tire too, but less. I don't think it disqualifies taste from aesthetics. It does mean the conditions for good judgement are harder to maintain, which is a practical problem rather than a metaphysical one.

    1. Joel D'Souza

      Contributor

      Bec, true, and every kitchen has a rule for it: taste early, taste with bread, don't trust your mouth at the end of a double shift. Which is itself a kind of expertise about expertise. I think I'll print Korsmeyer's chapter for the pass.

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