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Thesis Beauty is objective

Kavya Menon Fellow
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Beauty & artModern EuropeanDavid HumeImmanuel Kant#aesthetics#taste
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I want to defend a thesis that's unfashionable in literature departments: beauty is not merely in the eye of the beholder.

Hume, in "Of the Standard of Taste" (1757), argued that though beauty depends on sentiment, some judges are better than others: those with delicate taste, practice, comparison, freedom from prejudice and good sense. He tells the story from Don Quixote of Sancho's two kinsmen who tasted a wine; one detected leather, the other iron. They were laughed at, until a key on a leather thong was found at the bottom of the barrel.

Kant argued that a judgment of beauty claims universal agreement, even though it rests on feeling, not on a concept.

If some judgments of beauty are better than others, then beauty must be, in some sense, objective.

6 replies

For the thesis 3

  1. Claire Dubois

    For Fellow

    Translation has convinced me of this. Some translations of a poem are simply better than others, and good translators agree on which, across languages. If it were all subjective, that consensus would be a miracle.

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  2. Reza Tehrani

    For Fellow

    In Persian architecture there's a long tradition of beauty as proportion and harmony, which are measurable. A building with broken proportions looks wrong to everyone, even if they can't say why.

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  3. Emeka Nwosu

    For Fellow

    Physicists often call theories "beautiful", and the judgment is surprisingly consistent among us. Maybe that's just training, but it suggests beauty tracks something real: simplicity, symmetry, unexpected unity.

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Against the thesis 2

  1. Priya Raghavan

    Against Fellow

    Hume's argument is actually about the reliability of judges, not about objective beauty. Kinsmen with good palates reliably detect features that are really there, like leather. But "beautiful" isn't a feature like leather. It's how features affect us.

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    1. Kavya Menon

      Author’s response Fellow

      Priya, but Hume's point is that the leather and the iron caused the taste the kinsmen reported. The features of a poem cause the experience of beauty in a sensitive reader, in the same way. Beauty would then be a relational property, but no less real for that.

  2. Henrike Vogel

    Against Fellow

    Kant's position is subtler than objectivity. We speak as if beauty were a property of the object and demand agreement, but we can't prove it with concepts. It's a claim to universality without objectivity in the strict sense. I'd say that's the most honest position.

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