Card 6.20 · Root VI — The Philosophy of X Family
Philosophy of Death
Can something be bad for you if you are not there for it?
This question asks what death is, whether it is bad for the one who dies, and how a mortal life should be regarded.
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Where it sits
Under VI. Philosophy of X. Borders 1.3.2 Personal identity, 6.21 Meaning in life, 3.5 Value theory, 6.1 Philosophy of religion.
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The rival answers
| Position | Claim |
|---|---|
| Epicurean | Death is nothing to us; where it is, we are not |
| Deprivation account | Death is bad because it deprives you of goods you would have had |
| Annihilation is bad in itself | The ending of a person is a harm independent of lost goods |
| Survival views | Death is a transition; the question changes accordingly |
| Immortality is worse | An endless life would become unbearable or meaningless |
| Neutral | Death is neither good nor bad; the framing is confused |
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Can something be bad for you if you are not there for it?
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Key figures
| Figure | Dates | Tradition | Contribution |
|---|---|---|---|
| Epicurus | 341–270 BCE | Greek | Death is nothing to us: where we are, death is not; where death is, we are not |
| Lucretius | c. 99–55 BCE | Roman | The mirror of past non-existence |
| The Buddha | c. 480–400 BCE (disputed) | Indian | Impermanence; craving for permanence as the source of suffering |
| Al-Ghazali | 1058–1111 | Islamic | Remembrance of death as a spiritual discipline |
| Martin Heidegger | 1889–1976 | Continental | Being-toward-death as structuring an authentic life |
| Thomas Nagel | b. 1937 | Analytic | The deprivation account |
| Bernard Williams | 1929–2003 | Analytic | The tedium of immortality |
Also on this question: Marcus Aurelius
Talk about it here
Conversations about this question in Death:
- ‘What happens when we die?’ is a question most traditions would not have asked in that form 7 replies
- Does contemplating death dissolve the fear, or does it just stop us arguing about it? 6 replies
- Epicurus’s argument about death still works if you throw away the atoms 6 replies
- Williams was right: an endless life would eventually become unbearable 6 replies
- Rebirth without anyone reborn: the lamp that lights another lamp 6 replies
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Connections
→ 6.21, 1.3.2 · ↔ 3.5, 6.1, 3.3.1, 6.23 · ◇ Epicureanism, deprivation account, survival views · ○ Axial Age; Classical; Modern; Table 8
→ depends on · ↔ borders: genuine overlap, neither prior · ◇ answered by: points from question to answers · ○ appears in: points to the timeline and the comparisons
The full card is in the book
In The Coordinates of Thought this card goes on to a worked example that sets the answers against one case, and to where the question touches daily life — page 314.