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Thesis Taylor’s happy Sisyphus shows meaning is purely subjective

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I coach high school debate, and I make my students argue the side they don't believe. So here's me arguing a side I'm only half sure of.

Richard Taylor's version of Sisyphus goes like this. The gods, in pity, implant in Sisyphus an overwhelming desire to roll boulders. Nothing else changes: the stone still rolls back, the labour still produces nothing. But now he's doing exactly what he most wants, forever. Is his life now meaningful?

Taylor says yes, and I'll defend him. The futility was never what made Sisyphus's life miserable. What made it miserable was that he didn't want it. Remove the gap between desire and activity and the misery disappears. If you still say "but it's meaningless", what exactly are you pointing at? Not his experience, which is now fulfilling. You're pointing at some external standard of what activities are worth doing, and I don't see where that standard comes from or why it should override what he actually cares about.

Notice that most human lives look like Sisyphus's from far enough away. We build things that decay, raise children who will die, write essays nobody reads in a hundred years. If meaning required objective accumulation, nobody would have any. What we have instead is caring about what we do. That's all there is, and it's enough.

Thesis: if you grant that implanted-desire Sisyphus is fulfilled, you've granted that meaning is subjective. Prove me wrong.

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  1. Liu Jianguo

    For Contributor

    Partly for. Zhuangzi has the useless tree that survives because no carpenter wants it, and many passages where people do apparently pointless things with complete ease. He would not call it "meaning", but he admires the activity done for nothing beyond itself, without anxiety about its point. Your Sisyphus is close to that, Sam, except that Zhuangzi's people are not drugged into it either.

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  1. Gerrit Venter

    Against Contributor

    Against. Imagine I coached a boy who only ever wanted to kick a ball against a wall, and I implanted that desire so he'd be easy to manage. He'd be fulfilled. I'd be a monster. Taylor's gods are the same: if implanted desire made a life meaningful, there'd be nothing wrong with doing that to a person. But there obviously is. So something besides fulfilment matters.

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    1. Sam Ellery

      Contributor

      Gerrit, that's an argument about the gods' wrongdoing, not about Sisyphus's meaning. A life can be wrongly shaped and still meaningful to the one living it.

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  2. Hugo Marchetti

    Against Contributor

    Against, as a Camus reader. Camus's Sisyphus is happy because he's lucid: he knows the stone will roll back, and he goes down the hill knowing it. Taylor's Sisyphus is happy because he's been altered. Camus's whole point is that the absurd must not be escaped by any means, including chemistry. Taylor's version isn't the absurd hero; it's the absurd hero sedated.

  3. Claire Dubois

    Against Fellow

    Against, with Beauvoir. In The Ethics of Ambiguity freedom has to will itself and the freedom of others; a project that encloses you in yourself, however fulfilling, is a kind of failure. Taylor's Sisyphus is perfectly alone with his stone. Beauvoir would say his "meaning" can't be checked against anyone, so it's not yet meaning, just satisfaction.

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  1. Sam Ellery

    Contributor

    OK, I'll take the loss on points. Hugo's lucidity objection and Claire's isolation objection both say that how the desire is held matters, not just whether it is satisfied. That's already more than subjectivism. Final position: subjective engagement is necessary, and I can't yet say what else is.

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