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Heraclitus, Vasubandhu, Zhuangzi, Mulla Sadra: four routes to process, or four destinations?

It is often said that four thinkers, with no documented transmission between them, all arrived at a process view of reality: Heraclitus in Greece, Vasubandhu in India, Zhuangzi in China, and much later Mulla Sadra in Safavid Iran. The convergence is real. I want to test how far it goes, because comparison is most useful where it breaks.

Consider what each was actually arguing:

  • Heraclitus: change is constitutive of things, but under a measure (logos) that holds the opposites together. The river is the same river because the waters keep changing.
  • Vasubandhu: in the Abhidharmakośabhāṣya he argues that destruction needs no cause, so whatever comes into being perishes at once. Things are momentary. This is less a flowing river than a film of discrete frames.
  • Zhuangzi: the "transformation of things" closes the butterfly dream. It is not argued as a thesis about the basic constituents of reality; it is an attitude towards change and death.
  • Mulla Sadra: substantial motion. Aristotle confined motion to quality, quantity and place, and Ibn Sina added position; both denied motion in the category of substance. Sadra argued, inside their own vocabulary, that bodily substances themselves are in continuous change, with time as a dimension of that change.

My suspicion is that "process" names four different things here: a cosmological order, a theory of discrete moments, a way of living, and a renovation of Peripatetic physics. If that is right, the convergence shows the question is real, and the differences show that the substance/process split is one tradition's way of dividing the ground. I would like specialists in each to tell me where I have flattened their thinker.

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  1. Reza Tehrani

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    You have Sadra's mechanics right, but the destination matters. Substantial motion sits on two other doctrines: the primacy of existence over essence, and the gradation (tashkīk) of existence. Change, for Sadra, is existence intensifying. It has a direction, towards perfection, and the soul's own journey is part of it. That is very far from Heraclitus's balanced exchange of opposites. I would call Sadra's view process with a destination, which is almost a contradiction in Whitehead's terms but not in his.

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  2. Nirmala Jayasekara

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    Agreed on Vasubandhu, and I would push it further. Momentariness is an atomism of time. The sense of flow is constructed by the mind, which strings successive moments together. So in one sense he is the least "process" of the four: there is no flowing at all, only arising and ceasing. The Kośa also argues for positions of the Sautrāntikas against the Sarvāstivāda, and our Theravāda Abhidhamma differs from both, so even "the Buddhist view" here is a family argument.

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  3. Liu Mingqiao

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    On Zhuangzi you are right that it is not a doctrine, and I think that is the most important difference. When his wife died, the story goes, Zhuangzi was found drumming on a pot and singing. He explains that she has simply changed again, as she changed from nothing into life. The point is not that reality is made of processes. It is that grief which clings to one form is a misunderstanding. I read that chapter after my own wife died and it helped, though not because I agreed with a metaphysics.

  4. Giulia Ferrante

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    A note on Heraclitus. There are several river fragments, and scholars disagree about which are genuine and what they mean. Some read him as stressing stability through change rather than change undermining stability: the river persists because the waters flow, as a flame persists by burning. If that reading is right, Heraclitus is closer to Sadra than to Vasubandhu, which is the reverse of the usual grouping.

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  5. Kenneth Lam Chi-ho

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    This is what I hoped for. Collecting it: Sadra's process has a direction, Vasubandhu's has no flow, Zhuangzi's is a practice, and Heraclitus's may be about stability. Four different reasons for being dissatisfied with static things: metaphysical, analytic, therapeutic and cosmological. The convergence is evidence that the question is real. The comparison is only honest if we say all four of those sentences together.

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